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      <title> <![CDATA[National Zoo Part 2
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">Went back to the National Zoo.  This time I met up
with a few friends from my favorite online photography forum.  We walked around
for over 4 hours taking pictures of the animals.  Here are two of the best
shots.  Click on either to see a few others.</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:55:27 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Anson Photoshoot
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">Today I went to a friend's house to take pictures
of his 4-month-old son Anson, along with mother in some of the shots.  They were
thrilled with the results, which is always a nice reward.  I'm happy too.  He
was a bit of a tough subject, although you wouldn't know it from these pictures.
Here's one shot.  Click on it to see others.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[National Zoo
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">Went to the National Zoo this afternoon on the spur
of the moment late in the day.  Took 31 pictures, and this was one of the best. 
Click on it to see an album of other good ones.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Enlightenment
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">The following quote comes from a new friend I met
online, and was inspired by my own writings.  I wish I wrote it myself.  It
sounds so much like something I would write.  I think I'm going to adopt it into
my own philosophy.</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>Enlightenment is the point at which you
no longer have a need to ask questions, because you've discovered how to find
any answer within yourself. Enlightenment is the place in which pure,
unconditional¬†compassion exists. It is fulfillment. It is transcendental
joy. It is understanding. It is fully knowing the deepest part of¬†one's
self. It is peace. It is love. It is an awareness of everything, and a
need¬†for nothing. It is where fear, shame,¬†negativity,¬†and
pain¬†are all powerless. It is all of this, and yet it is simplicity
defined. It is brilliant white radiance.</i></font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Evolution vs Intelligent Design
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      <link> <![CDATA[http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C892752834/E902044387/index.html]]> </link>
      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">NPR this week had a story entitled
</font><font face="Helvetica"><a
href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4490227">An
Astronomer's View of Christianity and Science</a>
</font><font face="Verdana">on the debate in Kansas over teaching Evolution vs
Intelligent Design.  More interesting was the <a
href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4493357">letter to
NPR from a listener</a> who wrote:</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>Intelligent Design is not a scientific
theory.  Your report touched on this, but did not go far enough.  A scientific
theory makes predictions that are TESTABLE.  The role of science is not, and has
never been, to replace or disprove religion.  Those who feel threatened by
science must have a very tenuous hold on their faith, because true faith can
stand up to questioning.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">This
reminded me of a flash news tidbit that I just read in the February issue of
Discover Magazine that
read:</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>Gallup poll:  One-third
of Americans don't believe evidence supports Charles Darwin's theory of
evolution.  Another third does, and the remainder doesn't know.  Pollsters found
45 percent believe God created humans in their present form within the last
10,000 years.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Oh my!  Forty-five
percent?  I'm speechless.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Opening Flowers
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      <link> <![CDATA[http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C1616428771/E1648256130/index.html]]> </link>
      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">Once again I find myself quoting a comment from my
mom about one of my recent entries.  This was in response to my writing last
week <a href="/C1616428771/E461640988/">To Really Know
Someone</a>.</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>You might also like to entertain the
metaphor of a tightly closed flower bud that with the gentleness of the warming
sunshine (love) and soft cleansing of the drops of rain slowly but assuredly
opens its petals to reveal its inner beauty (soul).¬† Two such opening
flowers discover they are "soul
mates".</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">A beautiful
thought.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Hollywood
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">Late last month I was in LA (West Hollywood,
actually) on a business trip for 5 days.  During an afternoon off, I took a tour
of Hollywood and Beverly Hills for some picture taking.  Here are the four I
liked best.  Click on them to see the full album.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[To Really Know Someone
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      <link> <![CDATA[http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C1616428771/E461640988/index.html]]> </link>
      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">I've pondered at times whether it's possible to
ever
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>really</i></font><font face="Verdana">
know someone.  As a young adult, completely trusting and somewhat naive, I would
wholeheartedly have said yes.  I had since concluded in the past few years, and
said (not here, but to friends) that I didn't think so anymore.  It's too easy,
through fear or shame, for someone to hide something.  Those two emotions are
way too powerful, even in small amounts, not to have an effect on a person's
level of openness.</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana">Well ... I've changed my mind again.  I think it is
indeed possible to have an implied open book policy that is so open and free of
judgment, that truly knowing someone down to their core is attainable.  The key
phrase there is "free of judgment".  That's the elixir.  With an absence of
judgment, understanding and compassion and trust flourishes, and any fear or
shame that is shackling those secrets just melt away.  The book is allowed to
open wide, revealing the truth within.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Not Just a Tree
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      <link> <![CDATA[http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C778389259/E1230659784/index.html]]> </link>
      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">I took this photo while I was in Florida over
Christmas.  I should have posted it back then.  I'm finally sharing it today
because ... well, just because I felt particularly inspired
today.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">I should get back in the swing of
posting again.  I think I'll try to do that.  It won't be for at least another
week, though.  I'm soon heading to LA on a business trip, staying in West
Hollywood.  I've never been there.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[DC Dusk
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">I was near the Mall area of DC yesterday near
sunset, so I headed to the area of the new WWII Memorial and Reflecting Pool to
take some pictures in the improving light.  I hung around for over a half hour
and ended up with five images that I'm pretty happy with.  Here are two of them.
Click on either to see a page with all five.</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Composite Long-Exposure
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">I'm starting to experiment more with digital
photography.  I took this shot outside my new place.  It's actually two shots,
taken from the same location using a tripod, and then combined in Photoshop. 
Can you tell what parts belong to which shot?</font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Colorful Weekend
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">I spent another weekend in NH visiting family.  It
was perfect timing with the peak color season underway.  Although not the best
capture of color, here's one photo to share.</font></div>
 <br> <a href="http://pics.dbthoughts.com/FarmColor" target="New_Window"> <img SRC="http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C778389259/E1698218366/Media/IMG_2712.jpg"  height="180"  width="519"  hspace="0"  vspace="10"  alt=""  border="0"  /> </a><div></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[Why ... voting for Kerry
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      <link> <![CDATA[http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C892752834/E1488490568/index.html]]> </link>
      <description> <![CDATA[<img SRC="http://blog.dbthoughts.com/C892752834/E1488490568/Media/EAnderson.jpg"  height="155"  width="121"  align="right" hspace="10"  vspace="0"  alt=""  border="0"  /><div><font face="Verdana">An
opinion article recently appeared in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, written by my
great uncle, entitled <a
href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/562/5029512.html">Why this
Republican ex-governor will be voting for Kerry</a>.  It so eloquently
expresses a view I agree with, from a family member I so admire, that I feel
compelled to quote it here in its entirety.</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana-Bold"><b>Why this Republican ex-governor will be
voting for Kerry</b></font><br /><font face="Verdana-Bold"><b>Elmer L. Andersen 
</b></font><br /><font face="Verdana">October 13,
2004</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Throughout my tenure and beyond as
the 30th governor of this state, I have been steadfastly aligned -- and until
recently, proudly so -- with the Minnesota Republican
Party.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">It dismays me, therefore, to have
to publicly disagree with the national Republican agenda and the national
Republican candidate but, this year, I
must.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">The two "Say No to Bush" signs in
my yard say it all.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">The present
Republican president has led us into an unjustified war -- based on misguided
and blatantly false misrepresentations of the threat of weapons of mass
destruction. The terror seat was Afghanistan. Iraq had no connection to these
acts of terror and was not a serious threat to the United States, as this
president claimed, and there was no relation, it's now obvious, to any serious
weaponry. Although Saddam Hussein is a frightful tyrant, he posed no threat to
the United States when we entered the war. George W. Bush's arrogant actions to
jump into Iraq when he had no plan how to get out have alienated the United
States from our most trusted allies and weakened us immeasurably around the
world.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Also, if there as well had been
proper and careful coordination of services and intelligence on Sept. 11, 2001,
that horrific disaster might also have been averted. But it was a separate event
from this brutal mess of a war, and the disingenuous linking of the wholly
unrelated situation in Iraq to 9/11 by this administration is not supported by
the facts.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Sen. John Kerry was correct
when he said that seemingly it is only Bush and Dick Cheney who still believe
their own spin. Both men spew outright untruths with evangelistic fervor. For
Bush -- a man who chose to have his father help him duck service in the military
during the Vietnam War -- to disparage and cast doubt on the medals Kerry won
bravely and legitimately in the conflict of battle is a
travesty.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">For Cheney to tell the
hand-picked, like-minded Republican crowds in Des Moines last month that to vote
for John Kerry could mean another attack like that of 9/11 is reprehensible.
Moreover, such false statements encourage more terrorist attacks rather than
prevent them.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">A far smaller
transgression, but one typical of his stop-at-nothing tactics, was Cheney's
assertion in last Wednesday's vice-presidential debate that he'd never met Sen.
John Edwards until that night. The next day -- and the media must stay
ever-vigilant at fact-checking the lies of this ticket -- news reports, to the
contrary, showed four video clips of Edwards and Cheney sitting next to each
other during the past five years.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">In both
presidential debates, Kerry has shown himself to be of far superior intellect
and character than Bush. He speaks honestly to the American people, his ethics
are unimpeachable and, clearly, with 20 respected years in the Senate, he has
far better credentials to lead the country than did Bush when he was elected
four years ago. And a far greater depth of understanding of domestic and foreign
affairs to do it now.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Not that the
sitting president has ever really been at the
helm.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">I am more fearful for the state of
this nation than I have ever been -- because this country is in the hands of an
evil man: Dick Cheney. It is eminently clear that it is he who is running the
country, not George W. Bush.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Bush's phony
posturing as cocksure leader of the free world -- symbolized by his victory
symbol on the aircraft carrier and "mission accomplished" statement -- leave me
speechless. The mission had barely been started, let alone finished, and 18
months later it still rages on. His ongoing "no-regrets," no-mistakes stance and
untruths on the war -- as well as on the floundering economy and Bush
administration joblessness -- also disappoint and worry
me.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Liberal Republicans of my era and
mind-set used to have a humane and reasonable platform. We advocated the
importance of higher education, health care for all, programs for children at
risk, energy conservation and environmental protection. Today, Bush and Cheney
give us clever public relations names for programs -- need I say "No Child Left
Behind? -- but a lack of funding to support them. Early childhood education
programs and overall health care are woefully underfunded. We have not only the
largest number ever of medically uninsured in this nation, our infant mortality
rates, once among the lowest in the world, have worsened to
27th.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">As taxes for the wealthy are being
cut, jobs are being outsourced if not lost and children are homeless and
uninsured, this administration is running up the biggest deficit in U.S. history
-- bound to be a terrible burden for future
generations.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">This imperialistic, stubborn
adherence to wrongful policies and known untruths by the Cheney-Bush
administration -- and that's the accurate order -- has simply become more than I
can stand.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Although I am a longtime
Republican, it is time to make a statement, and it is this: Vote for
Kerry-Edwards, I implore you, on Nov.
2.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana-BoldItalic"><b><i>Elmer L. Andersen was
Minnesota's governor from 1961 to 1963.</i></b></font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[It's Not Just a "Global Test"
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">Bush's camp was out in force on weekend talk
programs with one particularly non-sensical talking point regarding Kerry's
comment during the debate, when he talked about never ceding the right to defend
the U.S., but that the means to that end must pass a "global test".  The Bush
camp pulled that two word phrase out of context in order to make fun of
it.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Well, last night on <a
href="http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/">The
Daily Show with Jon Stewart</a> was the following particularly
entertaining comedy bit on the subject:</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana">Jon:  </font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>I'm
joined by Senior Political Analyst Rob Corddry.  Rob, I have to tell ya.  What
is going on?  The media is playing this out like this "Global Test" phrase is up
for grabs with what Kerry meant by it, when it really seems very clear to anyone
listening to the context.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Rob: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>Yes, Jon, and therein lies the fundamental
problem with the Kerry campaign:  the enormous gap between what John Kerry
means, and what the Republicans say he
means.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Jon: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>I don't think I follow what you're
saying.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Rob: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>Look, Jon, the Bush camp's been very clear
that John Kerry would give France the veto over U.S. security.  And John Kerry
has had a real hard time being straightforward about admitting what the
Republicans say he believes.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Jon: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>But why should he admit that?  It is the
opposite of what he said on the
debate.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Rob: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>Right, Jon.  And that's the problem --
this constant flip-flopping.  Jon, say what you will about George W. Bush, but
you always know exactly what he says John Kerry stands
for.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Jon: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>But this was not a flip-flop.  Kerry's
been relatively clear and consistent in this
one.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Rob: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>No, see, Jon.  First he's a flip-flopper. 
Now he's not a flip-flopper.  Which is it John Kerry?  Huh?  Make up your mind,
man!</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Jon: 
</font><font face="Verdana-Italic"><i>... Rob Corddry, everyone.  We'll be right
back.</i></font></div>
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      <title> <![CDATA[It's Not a War
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      <description> <![CDATA[<div><font face="Verdana">I've been thinking more about why I'm so bothered
by this War on Terror thing.  <a href="/C1616428771/E2083670864">Last
time</a> I talked about how "War on Terror" is a misnomer as it's not a
war on anybody.  But then I started asking myself why that should bother me? 
We've used that idiom before:  "War on Drugs", for example.  What's wrong with
using the same idiom in this case?  Well, nothing really, unless you have a
leader that actually treats it like a real war!</font></div>
 <br> <div><font face="Verdana">Terrorism cannot provoke a war because there's no
state entity on which to declare war.  Terrorism is a law enforcement problem,
pure and simple.  When Timothy McVeigh carried out his act on Oklahoma City, we
didn't look for some country to invade, did we?  Since America produced Mr.
McVeigh, should we have invaded ourselves?  Or maybe we should have sought a
regime change in the state of New York where he was raised?  Of course that's
nonsense.  And so is our reaction to this War on Terror.  There's nothing wrong
with our military getting involved.  Just be sure to treat it like the law
enforcement issue that it really is.</font><br /><br /><font face="Verdana">Most
of America is blind to this distinction.  They hear our leader bang the drums of
war, let him instill fear that any way other than his way will risk more
terrorism, and allow him to continue his bullying ways on the rest of the world.
Well the rest of the world is not being fooled.  I heard on NPR recently a story
about Europe's take on our election.  If our election was decided by European
voters, Kerry would beat Bush by a factor of six to one.  Six to one!  I'm
convinced Europeans are smarter than most Americans.</font></div>
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